if you go back to the last election, even the election before that, it's hard to find a public poll from a major public polling outlet that was more than three points off of where -- of what the actual horse race was. i do, however, understand what republicans' frustration is. i mean, it's not like mitt romney's not an energizing candidate who connects with working class voters and hasn't switched positions a lot. so i do sort of understand their pain on this. >> john, a lot of pollsters are saying, look, it's funny how these complaints never seem to come from winning campaigns or folks in the lead. what do you make of it? >> listen, ari has a legitimate point. there's a legitimate debate about how do you weight these polls. pollsters have to weigh the data to simulate an election after they call 500 or 1,000 people and you had the big republican win in 2010. now they're weighing it more like a presidential year, 2008. who is exactly right about that is a legitimate debate. ari said something huge would have to happen for the polls to swing in the battleground states, many of the battleg